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A vehicle is not street legal unless it is registered and inspected.

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Another thought that Mark brought up.
Open/SLM/SS run together.
SLM has a no contact rule while open and SS do not.
This is sort of an oxymoron.
This should be addressed.

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The the point about SL cars being registered and inspected.

[sign in to see URL]. Street Legal classes include any original production cars able to pass NYS safety inspection for street use.


 The current rules state they must be able pass a NYS safety inspection only. I don't read that as a requirement that they actually be inspected, or registered, just that they are capable of meeting those safety requirements.. There are several drivers in all of the various street legal classes that do not keep their car registered, inspected, and insured. I being one of them. In NYS there is no safety only sticker for cars newer then 1995. 96+ is safety and emissions which I'm sure we all know can be a real challenge, especially when the rules allow you to modify the exhaust system, and pull the interior. As biased as I am I don't personally feel like to mandate that the car actually be on the road does anything but keep people away. If you are able to pass the tech inspection, I don't see what the issue is. It seemed to me a decent number of the cars that run in any of the SL classes are not registered and get trailered in.

Anyway. My two cents haha. Have a good Sunday!
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Point taken.
 This has been cussed and discussed ever since the class started.
It probably will continue.

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SS when it first came out was no contact. In that time 2 of my 3 race cars were pretty heavily damaged due to racing with the other menard cars.

Certainly not complaining, they were race cars only. But you cant mix contact and no contact classes.

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SS is a non contact class according to the rule book. That was put in place quite a few years ago because we were running SS with SLM which was also a non contact class.

This year a couple of times we put the modified class cars together with SS and SLM because the Modified cars wanted to run with "full body" cars instead of with the open wheel cars. As soon as you put any classes together that have non contact class cars in with them then the whole race was supposed to became a “non contact race”.

This point was not stressed enough probably at our last race on Lake George.

Now looking back we probably shouldn't combine non contact and contact allowed classes but because of the odd car counts this year and the wants of some of the racers we did it. We also needed to have 14 races per day and were hoping to make them all 15 minute races. So as you can see there is a juggling act that needs to be done between track time and who can run with who.

I think we may not keep the UTV class for 2019 so we have more time for "car races" and that will help us to possibly not combine some classes. But in the long run the main thing to keep in mind is that if there are any non contact class cars in the race then the whole race becomes a non contact race. And in my opinion that's not a bad thing. People should be avoiding contact anyway.

That's why things went the way they did this season. Please feel free to come and help hash this stuff out at the meetings or if you can't come them keep putting it up here.

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First off I do not want this to be taken as complaining or finger pointing!!

  That said IF cars are combined and the entire race becomes Non~contact Why did I sit crashed out of an event on Wells? No flag was thrown for the hard hit I took!! Again STUFF happens!!! This is racin!!! The other driver and I were going for the same real estate!! emoticon

AND I know one SS car(not me) was black flagged for a VERY minor touch @ Lake George.

IF this is going to be the rule it needs to be consistent!! That is all I am trying to get at!

  MOST contact can be avoided. I did not put a scratch on my car this year.I still feel if you are bringing out a caged car on race tires a little rubbin should be acceptable! Nothin better (IMO) than havin a donut or 2 on the side of your car after a hard fought battle!!! Those are not [sign in to see URL] are memories!!! emoticon

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I pretty much agree with what Dave said.

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Chiming in a bit late here, but I would definitely like to see the SL rules restrict to only cars that are registered and inspected. If a car isn't registered it isn't legal to be driven on the streets, which would seem to go against the name of the class...

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I made that statement awhile back.
As I recall, the original intent was registration but for some reason it was later deleted.

So, (S)treet (L)egal guys does a vehicle have to be registered ?

Now with new rule proposals coming up now is the time to voice your opinion.

In AMEC, rules are voted on by the entire club .

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