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Don't forget your passport.

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Don't forget your passport.

It'll be the first time I've ever used my new passport.

I've heard from Jeff Dungen, the SMCC event organizer that the route being planned will not be easy for fuel mileage. This will be a very challenging event indeed. I'm looking forward to it.

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Since my drivers license is up for renwal, I will be getting the new Enchanced Drivers Licenses. Lets me go to Canada or Mexico.
I just have to prove I am who I say I am.

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Here is a copy of a post from another forum where the SMCC organizer, Jeff Dungen gives us a few more details for his economy run/tsd rally event.:

"Thanks for posting Mike!

Yes, our Economy Run is indeed designed to force competitors to make trade-offs between fuel economy and lateness. As it currently stands, all checkpoints will be elapsed time controls where competitors may arrive early without penalty - but not late. The elapsed times will be quite generous for a road rally, but will surely require the economy-minded to push the pedals with a bit of fervour.

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100% asphalt (but it's Quebec asphalt which isn't always perfectly smooth) urban, country road, divided and provincial highway driving mix. It starts in Charlemagne [where Celine Dion was born] finish restaurant is wonderful and has a great parking lot on the water for photoshoots. Instructions will be tulips with cumulative and interval distances (very easy). Possibility to have a scale if competitors want to take this ultra-seriously.


We're hoping to attract many of the veteran competitors from the annual FIA Rallye Energie Alternative events. The next such event is in the Fall and runs from Montreal, QC to Lake Placid, NY."

Did you catch that last detail? Another one in the Fall is planned and it's coming into NY!
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This is something similar to what I have had in mind. A real world economy run. Set a course at the posted speed limits and have time limits. Not really a rally,but with similar time constraints.

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ZX2 2000 wrote: Set a course at the posted speed limits and have time limits. Not really a rally, but with similar time constraints.

Indeed. I can't see any big mpg numbers happening at this SMCC economy/tsd rally event. We will see much more real world figures. In fact, it makes me wish I had a diesel powered car to enter with.

In fact, I saw just the car yesterday while on vacation in VA. I didn't get a picture, but it was a little Citroen AX. The plates on it said "Diplomat". The fender said that it had a 1.5 diesel in it. Here's a pic of one from Wiki:

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The one I saw was the same color as this one. It has plastic panels in non load bearing areas, a drag coefficient of 0.31, and a very light weight of just 1,411 lbs!

It can achieve 80 mpg without hypermiling.

Perfect! Where can I get one? emoticon

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That’s neat Mike but it would be tough to get one of those in the US unless it was 25 years old and even then you would have a lot of hoops to jump through. The Europeans are way ahead of us with their diesel cars. Americans still think that diesels smell and make noise.
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Mike Kamm wrote:It can achieve 80 mpg without hypermiling.


...per 153 ounce Imperial gallon, or about 65 miles on one of our 128 ounce gallons.


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Mike Kamm wrote:It can achieve 80 mpg without hypermiling.


...per 153 ounce Imperial gallon, or about 65 miles on one of our 128 ounce gallons.

Thank you Jonathan. That makes me feel better, because I can't have one anyway. So us hypermilers could still get 80 [US] mpg with it, but it would take some hypermiling after all. emoticon

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4th Annual Green Grand Prix


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Just a reminder that the Green Grand Prix economy run event around Senaca Lake is coming right up on May 8th. I'll probably be the only A.M.E.C. member there, but it is interesteing to know that this event much more than just the fuel economy competition.

The participants are part of a daylong celebration of sustainable transportation. The Green Grand Prix is based at the International Motor Racing Research Center (www.racingarchives.org) on South Decatur Street in Watkins Glen and the adjacent Watkins Glen school district grounds. Other activities include educational displays, speakers, cars on display, exhibits, music and food under the tent.

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Cars from different schools like the solar car from Newburgh Free Academy will be on display and competing.

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Marcelo daLuz's "Xof1" solar electric racer. In the backround is Carl and RT Larson's 1914 Woods Electric Dual Tiller, which is believed to be the last of its type in existence.

All participants get an event T-shirt and lunch served under the tent. Registration is HERE.

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